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Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« on: November 03, 2010, 02:31:40 PM »
Disebalik khasiat yang diperbesar-besarkan, anda juga harus berhati-hati dengan soya. Adakah ia sesuai untuk anda? Benarkah susu soya lebih baik daripada susu lembu, tidak kira untuk bayi, atau wanita hamil? Dan adakah ia membantu pasangan yang inginkan anak? Atau sebaliknya? Sila baca...



Soy Good, Bad...or Both?
If you do a little reading, soy is either the healthiest food in the world (and good for fertility) or the devil itself, and about as helpful for conception as taking a handful of birth control pills.

Could it possibly be that both are right?

When I wrote the article for Natural Health on fermented foods, I noticed that most cultures eat soy as a fermented product (tempeh, miso, in Korea, doenchang). It appears fermentation helps predigest the soy and also neutralize all sorts of things that are bad for your thyroid, etc. And, not surprisingly, it's the weirdly processed soy (e.g., your soy baloney) that's the worst for you. Make sense? So now that the US is overproducing soy and pushing it on everyone...well...you see where I'm going. Put it this way, eating unfermented soy or taking soy supplements might not be the healthiest thing to do, especially if you have thyroid disease and/or are trying to get pregnant.

From Natural News:

Perhaps the most disturbing of soy's ill effects on health has to do with its phytoestrogens, which can mimic the effects of the female hormone, oestrogen. These phytoestrogens have been found to have adverse effects on various human tissues, and drinking only two glasses of soy milk daily for one month has enough of the chemical to alter a woman's menstrual cycle.

Soy is particularly problematic for infants and it would be very wise to avoid giving them soy-derived products, since it has been estimated that infants who are exclusively fed soy formula receive the equivalent of five birth control pills worth of oestrogen every day. Check out (www.westonaprice.org) to find some alarming research and statistics on what can go wrong when infants and children are regularly fed soy formula.

In order to derive some benefit from soy, consuming only fermented soy products - such as organic miso (mugi barley and genmai miso are the best), organic tempeh, soy sauce or tamari and natto - is the way to do it. This is because the phytic acid, which is inherent in soy beans, has been neutralized in the process of fermentation. Consuming fermented soy is very beneficial in recolonizing the friendly bacteria in the large intestine, which neutralizes the 'unfriendly' bacteria and allows for greater general assimilation of foods and nutrients.

Another common fallacy is that soy foods couldn't possibly have a downside because Asian cultures eat large quantities of soy every day and consequently remain free of most western diseases. In reality, the people of China, Japan and other Asian countries eat very little soy. The soy industry's own figures show that soy consumption in China, Indonesia, Korea, Japan and Taiwan ranges from 10 to 90 grams per day. That is grams of soy food, not grams of soy protein alone. Compare this with a cup of tofu (250 grams) or soy milk (240 grams). Many Americans and Australians today would be consuming a cup of tofu and a couple of glasses of soy milk every day. They might also add veggie burgers to this, thinking they are getting their much needed protein intake. Infants on soy formula are probably the most disadvantaged, as that is their main source of nutrition and they ingest large amounts of soy relative to their body weight. Often the side effects are not noticed but, as they are growing up, runny noses, frequent colds, irritability, severe sugar cravings and food intolerance develop.

The summary below outlines the adverse effects of unfermented soy products:

* Trypsin inhibitors in soy interfere with protein digestion and may cause pancreatic disorders. In test animals soy containing trypsin inhibitors caused stunted growth.

* Soy phytoestrogens disrupt endocrine function and have the potential to cause infertility and to promote breast cancer in adult women.

* Soy phytoestrogens are potent anti-thyroid agents that cause hypothyroidism and may cause thyroid cancer. In infants, consumption of soy formula has been linked to autoimmune thyroid disease.
Vitamin B12 analogs in soy are not absorbed and actually increase the body's requirement for B12.
Soy foods increase the body's requirement for vitamin D.

* Fragile proteins are denatured during high temperature processing to make soy protein isolate and textured vegetable protein.

* Free glutamic acid or MSG, a potent neurotoxin, is formed during soy food processing and additional amounts are added to many soy foods.

* Soy foods contain high levels of aluminum which is toxic to the nervous system and the kidneys.
Source: (www.westonaprice.org)

--Teya Skae M.A., B.A.,Dip Health Sciences, Dip Clinical Nutrition


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http://greenfertility.blogspot.com/2008/02/soy-good-bador-both.html


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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2010, 02:34:07 PM »
buat sendiri air soya kat rumah
itu lagi jaminan yg terbaik
kan? ke untuk baby neh?
adehhhh..malas nak baca ni ummi:)

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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2010, 02:36:27 PM »
kesimpulannya kak ummi?

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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2010, 02:44:12 PM »
cuba ima simpulkan dulu.. nanti akak nyampuk hehee. Akak rasa tersimpul lak sebab internet ni broadbandnya data upload dan download macam tersekat je, macam tersimpul je, - dari akak yang dah tak larat nak senyum simpul dek broadband yg tersimpol

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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2010, 02:48:04 PM »
cuba ima simpulkan dulu.. nanti akak nyampuk hehee. Akak rasa tersimpul lak sebab internet ni broadbandnya data upload dan download macam tersekat je, macam tersimpul je, - dari akak yang dah tak larat nak senyum simpul dek broadband yg tersimpol

tersenyum simpol baca statement ummi ni... ;) ;)


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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2010, 02:49:18 PM »
seb baik tak minat minum soya
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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2010, 02:50:18 PM »
tapi tempe? kicap? erkkkk... dan tofu (beancurd)? uwaaaa
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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2010, 02:57:31 PM »
pernah paed tegur daku..
"masa preggy suka minum soya eh?"
saya tnya "kenapa doc"
"sebab anak awak alahan kulit ni..antara kesan minum soya yg banyak masa preggy"
saya diam je.... ???

eh..betul ke ni??
kali ni preggy saya kurang minum soya..mual  :D

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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2010, 02:59:20 PM »
pernah paed tegur daku..
"masa preggy suka minum soya eh?"
saya tnya "kenapa doc"
"sebab anak awak alahan kulit ni..antara kesan minum soya yg banyak masa preggy"
saya diam je.... ???

eh..betul ke ni??
kali ni preggy saya kurang minum soya..mual  :D

anak saudara akak sorg gini gak... mmg mak dia belasah soya hari2
dah rezeki anak dia, dah lepas kan... cuma lain kali kena jaga..

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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2010, 03:02:02 PM »
uiksss saya suka soya!!tapi saya suka soya buat sendiri jek...
soya kat kedai tu manis2 belaka...
ermmm selalunya yang bagi efek ni kalau kita terlebih minum...
kalau nak minum boleh jek tapi biar la berpada2 kan...

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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2010, 03:09:11 PM »
anak saudara akak sorg gini gak... mmg mak dia belasah soya hari2
dah rezeki anak dia, dah lepas kan... cuma lain kali kena jaga..

eh..maknanya dia tak bergurau ke kak??
walaweii..saya pikir dia gurau2 manja.. :D
waduh..memang alya berkulit yg sgt sensitip..kena sapu ubat selalu :-\

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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2010, 03:12:29 PM »
uiksss saya suka soya!!tapi saya suka soya buat sendiri jek...
soya kat kedai tu manis2 belaka...
ermmm selalunya yang bagi efek ni kalau kita terlebih minum...
kalau nak minum boleh jek tapi biar la berpada2 kan...

setuju!! berpada-pada

eh..maknanya dia tak bergurau ke kak??
walaweii..saya pikir dia gurau2 manja.. :D
waduh..memang alya berkulit yg sgt sensitip..kena sapu ubat selalu :-\
Mudah berkudis kalau kena gigit semut
Kata maknya dia minum soya hari2...
Dekat dia la.. tak tau le org lain cemana...

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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2010, 03:13:00 PM »
Ada dengar kalau mak suka minum soya time preggy anak lahir kulit putih tapi sensitif.

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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2010, 03:15:23 PM »
tengok kulit syafiah... gebus-gebas, tahan lasak lagi... tapi saya tak minum soya pun.
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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2010, 03:15:40 PM »
pernah paed tegur daku..
"masa preggy suka minum soya eh?"
saya tnya "kenapa doc"
"sebab anak awak alahan kulit ni..antara kesan minum soya yg banyak masa preggy"
saya diam je.... ???

eh..betul ke ni??
kali ni preggy saya kurang minum soya..mual  :D

betul sha
sebab aku tengok anak buah aku
mak dia belasah soya time pregnent
memnag banyak ahh dia minum
anak dia sekarang dah umur 8 tahun
kulit memang sensitif
boleh kata parut segenap tubuh
kalau digigit nyamuk pun
tinggal bekas itam






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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2010, 03:19:49 PM »
nuyue..
haku memang telan banyak soya..
konon nak kulit alya putih mulus..
memang hasilnya putih..
tapi laa ni memang kene jaga sangat..
tak boleh kene gigit nyamuk..luka..
nanti kudis cam kak ummi cakap tu.. :(

yang 2nd ni aku tak lalu pulak nak telan..
dah lalu nanti pon takmau telan ahh..

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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2010, 03:20:38 PM »
Ada dengar kalau mak suka minum soya time preggy anak lahir kulit putih tapi sensitif.

anak sedara tu mmg putih
putih drp adik beradik lain

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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2010, 03:27:57 PM »
nuyue..
haku memang telan banyak soya..
konon nak kulit alya putih mulus..
memang hasilnya putih..
tapi laa ni memang kene jaga sangat..
tak boleh kene gigit nyamuk..luka..
nanti kudis cam kak ummi cakap tu.. :(

yang 2nd ni aku tak lalu pulak nak telan..
dah lalu nanti pon takmau telan ahh..


kalau nak minum ok
tapi berpada-pada...

luka alya ada tinggal parut tak?








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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2010, 03:35:32 PM »
kalau nak minum ok
tapi berpada-pada...

luka alya ada tinggal parut tak?




ada juga..aku ada letak ubat..sebelum luka cecepat letak ubat..
so ada yg tak sempat parut..
memang pengajaran sgt ni..

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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2010, 03:36:21 PM »
tengok kulit syafiah... gebus-gebas, tahan lasak lagi... tapi saya tak minum soya pun.

Mesti ikut kulit mak ayah dia yg gebus-gebas...

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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2010, 03:38:23 PM »
anak sedara tu mmg putih
putih drp adik beradik lain

Mak ayah dia cemana k ummi? Jenis kulit cerah ka sedang2 saja....Biasanya ikut genetik jugak,kalau mak tak minum soya pun kalau dah genetik kulit cerah anak pun sama.

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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2010, 03:40:13 PM »
Mesti ikut kulit mak ayah dia yg gebus-gebas...

tak juga... kita orang tak gebus-gebas...
adik-beradik dia pun tak segebus dia
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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2010, 03:40:45 PM »
kak ummi untuk husband elok x minum soya?

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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2010, 03:49:49 PM »
masa mengandungkan Kira dulu, memang banyakkk minum air soya
hubby yang rajin belikan...memang sentiasa ade soya dalam fridge

alhamdulilah, so far xde pulak kulit Kira sensitif ke ape...

this time, kurang la minum soya...macam x best pulak rasanya huhuhuuu

tapi kan wina pernah dengar orang kata kalau amalkan minum soya, baby lahir nanti bersih je...xde macam lendir putih

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Re: Soya, beri manfaat atau memudaratkan?
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2010, 01:20:34 AM »
alamak ye ke..
ibu2 semua ckp pasal soya kotak yang jual kat kedai tu ke?
sbb saya minum ISOLATED SOYA PROTEIN powder.6 peket sehari..
Alhamdulillah anak sihat.

 

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